Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum tore into Colorado Democrat Rep. Jason Crow during a tense interview, pressing him repeatedly on the specifics behind a viral video where congressional Democrats urged military members to defy “illegal orders” from the Trump administration.
Crow repeatedly dodged, with vague allusions to random “Trump bad” rhetoric, and offering no concrete examples of actual unlawful directives.
The exchange highlighted what critics, including senior Trump advisor Stephen Miller, have blasted as Democrats’ desperate call for insurrection, rooted in nothing more than baseless fear-mongering as they cling to power.
Watch Martha MacCallum go round and round with 'insufferable' Former Army Ranger Rep. Jason Crow, D-Colorado over the Dems new "Sedition" videos.
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Makes me wonder how many times Crow was docked for insubordination when he served. Good on Martha – she pushed back as much as… pic.twitter.com/JU9CFLHfb4
In the video, a group of Democrats with military or intelligence backgrounds—including Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI), Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-PA), and Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA)—solemnly intoned messages like: “Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders,” and “No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.”
Crow himself appeared, warning that the administration is pitting the military “against American citizens.”
MacCallum kicked off the interview by questioning Crow’s participation, noting pushback from those who argue that military service means carrying out assigned missions, not selectively defying them. “Why did you participate in this video?” she asked.
Crow responded by claiming they were “standing by our troops” and reminding them of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the Constitution, and the law of war—comparing it to training he gave his infantry platoon before deploying to Iraq in 2003.
But MacCallum wasn’t buying the vagueness, pressing: “What law are you talking about that’s being broken? And then you said that he’s implying that he might do something that they wouldn’t want to uphold or follow through with in the future. What are you talking about specifically?”
Crow cited examples like Trump’s alleged comment during the Lafayette Square protests—“Can’t you just shoot them? Can’t you just shoot them in the legs or something?”—which MacCallum dismissed as “not a military order. That was a comment.” Crow insisted it was effectively a request from the president.
He then mentioned Trump’s threats to send the military into cities like Chicago to “go to war with those cities,” and allusions to deploying troops to polling stations, which he claimed violates U.S. law.
MacCallum fired back: “You’re talking about allusions. You’re not talking about actual policy. You’re not talking about things that our members of—our service members, who we revere and respect, are actually being asked to do.”
She then questioned if they were referring to operations like intercepting drug boats in the Caribbean under Operation Southern Spear, where the U.S. military has targeted suspected smugglers.
Crow denied it, insisting the video wasn’t about Venezuela or current operations, but about preventing future problems. “How about we actually prevent things from happening before they become a problem?” he said, arguing for preparing troops in advance.
Yet MacCallum kept hammering: “What specific order from the commander in chief that we are asking our military to carry out are you objecting to? This is very, very vague. And it was so vague in this video, nobody—I don’t think people could figure out what you guys were all talking about, honestly.”
Crow circled back to Trump’s “disturbing comments and suggestions that would violate U.S. law,” refusing to pinpoint an active order, and accused MacCallum of wanting to “wait until there’s a problem to respond.”
MacCallum reiterated her core question: Democrats are leaving service members confused by not specifying unlawful orders. She quoted Sen. Eric Schmitt’s response on X: “They’re mad at the American people—that the American people chose Trump, and now they’re calling on the military and intelligence community to intervene. Sounds a little, quote, subversive to democracy-ish.”
Crow dismissed it as “patently false and absurd,” insisting they were just reminding troops of legal obligations, no different from his military training.
MacCallum concluded by noting recruitment is rising under Trump, and service members are “very smart,” capable of understanding their duties—yet the video’s vagueness could plant unnecessary doubts.
This entire debacle shows once again that Democrats have no direction other than to oppose everything Trump says.
Senior White House advisor Stephen Miller raged in a separate Fox News appearance, Democrats are inciting “insurrection” by urging the CIA and Armed Forces to defy orders.
“It is insurrection. Plainly, directly, without question!” Miller declared, adding, “There is nothing graver that you could possibly say as a United States Senator than encouraging, URGING, DIRECTING members of the Armed Forces…to defy their president, defy their chain of command.”
Miller eviscerated them as a “third world party” obsessed with power: “They don’t believe in systems, they don’t believe in rules, they don’t believe in laws. They believe in whatever keeps them in power. And if what they think keeps them in power is a military insurrection or a CIA insurrection, that’s what they support!”
With no specific illegal orders cited—just hazy “allusions”—the Democrat video reeks of desperation from a party out of ideas, resorting to calls for rebellion against a duly elected administration.
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That idiot was a US officer? And that idiot was elected by people with functional brain cells to congress? Pathetic